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Re: MEDICARE PART B REIMBURSEMENT


This is important information for all Active and Retired PAPD personnel, for some seven (7) years now the RPA (Retired Police Association of the State of New York), has been trying to help us get the benefits enjoyed by most other NY Police Departments. I will list on this page the letters and reply's to and from the Port Authority and the RPA. However, I found Marty Dunnes (Retired - JFK) letters particularly of interest and certainly informative on the matter.

Needless to say, our sincere thanks and appreciation should also go to RPA President Edward F. Curran for going that extra mile in trying to help us obtain this benefit, when our own PBA and other PONYA organizations, don't seem to want to acknowledge us.


Marty's message to Joseph J Seymour, Executive Director of The Port Authority of NY and NJ.

Dear Sir,

After reading your reply to our letter regarding our request concerning payment for Medicare Part B co-payment, we again are requesting your consideration in this matter.

We recently found out that back in 2000 the Port Authority took over these payments for all future retirees not affiliated with unions. We contacted our former union the PBA and they told us they could not help us as we were not union members and no longer affiliated with them. You suggested that we contact and it could be a negotiable item. We can't as we are in the same situation as the people you gave this benefit to.

Mr Boyle (former Executive Director) met in Florida with the Retirees in 2000 and requested we join him and switch from Prudential to United Health Care - that the Port Authority would save millions of dollars and he could meet with the retirees to share these payments - Medicare, part B payment etc. Well, as fate would have it, Mr Boyle left the Port Authority shortly after.

As you know, this is a benefit that starts at 65 years of age, the same year the Port Authority health costs are reduced for those who are 65 years old and these costs are now passed on to the retirees, over $2,000.00 a year for the retirees and their spouse.

These same retirees are now faced with an additional expense from their small pensions. (years ago the pensions were quite small), Those retiring after 2000 received larger pensions and $2,000.00 a year less out of their pensions. Both those who retired prior to 2000 and after, have the same living costs.

In Closing:
1. We have the same smallest pensions.
2. We're the only ones facing a $2,000.00 plus reduction from our pensions.
3. We have no affiliation with a union.
4. We were assured by Mr Boyle that he would form a Retirees Group to handle this (maybe you could ask hi about this).
5. It's a benefit enjoyed by NYC, Nassau and Suffolk County retirees, etc.
6. It's now enjoyed since 2000 by the other non-represented former employees.
7. We have no one to go to for help in this matter, but to the Port Authority.

CC: Rosetta Janotta
Dep. Dir. Human Resources Dept.

Yours Truly,
Martin Dunne



02-21-06

Dear Gus,

Recently in connection with Ed Curran (Pres. of the RPA), he told me he was going to forward to you a letter he received from the Port Authority. They told him that our request for Medicare being paid by the Port Authority was a negotiable item that could be taken up by you.

I know you have told me in the past that you could not negotiate for retirees, but if you were able to get this for the present employees, we feel they might include us. If you recall when Mr Boyle accompanied you to the Florida Retirement meeting, he stated that by switching medical plans it would save millions and he would share the savings with the retirees.

Well, as fate would have it, he left and we were never able to approach him about it. With all the recent press concerning overtime and salaries, if the Port were to become tough in negotiations concerning salaries, it's possible they might consider the Medicare payments as it would not show up as salary, and all the major departments get it.

As you know, for husband and wife this is a payment of over $2,000.00 per year.

Al Sgaglione's legacy was the 20 year pension.

This could be part of your legacy for the present and retired police.

Fraternally,
Martin Dunne

Marty sent the above to Gus Danese, President of the Port Authority PBA!



April 2, 2006

Dear Marty,

As a follow up to our discussion at RPA meeting, on April 20, 2006, enclosed herewith are the following items:

1. Copy of your letter to Gus Danese, dated 2/21/06
2. Two copies of the Port Authority, Human Resources Dept. Memo Re: 2000 Benefit Program change. (One for Dom Evangelista, PAPBA Executive Secretary, if you desire)

Please be advised that I sent a copy of subject memo, from Human Resources Dept., to Port Authority PBA President Gus Denese, so he does not get the feeling that we by passed him.

I also have prepared a report of all that has taken place regarding this matter. Included with the report are copies of correspondence. I am going to discus with the Executive Board, the mailing of this report to all RPA Port Authority Police members. You and/or any other Port Authority members are welcome to review the report prior to distribution.

I am still looking into and would appreciate any suggestions re follow up action in regard to this matter.

Very truly yours,
Edward F. Curran
President, RPA



May 1, 2006

To: RPA Port Authority Police Retirees Members
From: Ed Curran, President
Subject: Medicare Part B Reimbursement

During 2002 it was brought to my attention by Port Authority retired members of the RPA, that the Port Authority Police retirees, paying into Medicare, through deductions from Social Security benefits, for their Medicare Part B Primary Health Insurance coverage, are not being reimbursed for these payments. They further asked if the RPA could look into this matter.

The procedure is, when a retiree, enrolled in the Social Security Program reached the age of 65, his/her primary insurance carrier, automatically becomes Medicare. There are two parts to the program, Part "A" assists in paying for hospital expenses. Part "B" assists in paying for doctor visits and treatment and other types of treatment.

New York City retirees, retired members of the New York State Health Insurance Program (NYSHIP) and most other Public retirees throughout New York State, who are covered by Medicare, are reimbursed, by their previous employer, for payments made for Medicare Part B coverage. This is only fare and reasonable, as the former employers savings are substantial, as they no longer pay for this primary coverage.

During the last several years, with the assistance of 1st VP Mike Ferranola (Ret - PAPD), I have been corresponding with the Port Authority of NY & NJ and the Port Authority PBA, LBA, SBA, and DEA, in an effort to get this matter resolved.

At the recommendation of members of the Port Authority Police, in attendance at our RPA meetings, I am preparing this report and publicizing the correspondence involved, for the information and consideration of all our RPA Port Authority members.

Correspondence To Port Authority of NY & NJ
* December 2, 2002, to Joseph J. Seymour, Executive Director
(With news clipping) (copy attached)
* March 25, 2003, to Joseph J. Seymour, Executive Director
(follow up due to not receiving response to December 2, 2002 correspondence).

October 4, 2004 to Joseph J. Seymour, Executive Director
(follow up due to not receiving response to December 2, 2002 and March 25, 2003 correspondence) (Sent Certified mail - Return Receipt)

Correspondence from Port Authority of NY & NJ
* November 2, 2004 from Rosetta A. Jannotta, Dep. Director
Human Resources Dept. (copy Attached)
NOTE:
(Paragraph 3)
"Regarding your request, as you know all benefits are required to be negotiated. Since the Medicare Part B premium reimbursement benefit is not part of the Police Memorandum of Understanding, it cannot be offered to Port Authority Police Officers on whose behalf you are writing."

Correspondence To Port Authority Police Benevolent Association:
(Copy to LBA, SBA, & DEA)
* May 5, 2003, to Gus Danese, President, PBA (Copy Attached)
* October 5, 2004, to Gus Danese, President, PBA (Certified mail, return receipt)
(follow up when no answer to May 5, 2003 correspondence)
* December 2, 2004, to Gus Danese, President, PBA
(forwarding copy of reply from Rosetta Janotta,Dep. Dir. Human Resources Dept.)

Correspondence from Port Authority Police Benevolent Association:
* October 21, 2004, from Gus Danese, President of the Port Authority PBA (Copy Attached)

Correspondence from RPA, PAPD member to Port Authority PBA
* February 21, 2006, from RPA member Martin Dunne (PAPD) to Gus Danese, President, Port Authority PBA (Copy Attached)

Meeting With President of Port Authority Retirees Association:
On March 8, 2006 I, along with 1st VP Mike Ferranola, met with Richard K. Helman, President of the PARA, in the RPA office. Purpose of the meeting was to update PARA on our efforts to secure Medicare reimbursement and to secure support of the PARA, in this effort.
NOTE: During my discussion with President Helman, I learned for the first time, that:
"effective July 1, 2000, specifically, non represented Port Authority and PATH employees, retiring on or after July 1, 2000, will be entitled to the reimbursement of Medicare Part B premiums annually, for themselves and their eligible spouse at age 65."
(Copy of Notice Attached).



October 18, 2006

Joseph J. Seymour, Executive Director
The Port Authority of NY and NJ
225 Park Ave South - 15th Floor
New York, NY 10003

Dear Sir,

I have previously corresponded with you on two previous occasions, December 2, 2002 and October 4, 2004. In return I received a reply from Rosetta A. Jannotta, Dep. Director, Human Resources Dept., dated November 2, 2004. (Copies of aforementioned correspondence are enclosed for referenced)

Since the aforementioned communications the following has occurred, prompting this correspondence:

1. Port Authority Police retirees, have become aware that, a Human Resources Dept. 2000 Benefit Program Change Memo stated that,
"Non-re-presented Port Authority and PATH employees retiring on or after July 1, 2000 will be entitled to be the reimbursement of Medicare part B premiums annually for themselves and their eligible spouses of age 65."

* Port Authority Police retirees who are also non-represented and who have no bargaining rights, respectfully request that consideration be given to include them under this 2000 Benefit Program.

* Port Authority Police retirees requested that a letter from Port Authority Police retiree Martin Dunne be included with his correspondence. This letter relates to statements made by former Executive Director Boyle at a meeting with Port Authority retirees. (copy attached)

Port Authority Police retirees, respectfully request that you give consideration to include them as reimbursed Medicare recipients, as you have other non-represented Port Authority retirees and as are most other Medicare recipients in New York State.

Sincerely,
Edward F. Curran
President, RPA

CC: Rosetta Jannotta
Enc: 4



October4, 2004

Joseph J. Seymour, Executive Director
The Port Authority of NY and NJ
225 Park Avenue South
New York, NY 10003

Re: Medicare Part B Reimbursement

Dear Sir,

On December 2, 2002, I wrote you at the request of and on behalf of the over 500 retired Port Authority Police Officers, who are members of our Association.

The purpose of the correspondence was to ask you to give consideration to provide Port Authority retirees, with reimbursement for payments they make towards their Medication Part B coverage. This benefit is enjoyed by most other public retirees in New York State.

After not receiving an acknowledgment or response to the aforementioned correspondence, and being queried by Port Authority retirees relative to a response, I sent you a follow up correspondence on March 25, 2003.

I have continuously since March 25, 2003, been again queried by Port Authority Police retirees, relative to a response to my two inquires.

Having received no acknowledgment or response to either of the aforementioned inquiries, I have been again requested by these Port Authority Police retirees to send you another follow up letter, registered mail to ensure that you have received same.

I look forward to a response.

Yours truly,

Edward F. Curran
President, RPA



December 2, 2002

Joseph J. Seymour, Executive Director
The Port Authority of NY & NJ
225 Park Avenue South - 18th Floor
New York, NY

Re: Medicare Part B Reimbursement

Dear Sir,

I am the President of the Retired Police Association of the State of New York, which is comprised of approximately 4,500 retired police and law enforcement officers from all areas of the State.

Included in our membership are approximately 300 retired Port Authority Police.

It was recently brought to my attention that Port Authority Police Retirees are not reimbursed for payments they make to the Federal Government, through deductions from Social Security benefits, for their Medicare Part B Primary Health Insurance coverage.

I am sure that you are aware that New York City retirees, retiree members of the New York Health Insurance Program and most other public retirees throughout New York State, are reimbursed by their municipality/previous employer, for payments they make towards their Medicare Part B coverage.

If lawfully possible, it is respectfully requested that you give consideration to providing Port Authority retirees with this same benefit, as is enjoyed by most other public retirees in New York State.

If not in the purview of the Port Authority Administration, please advise what steps could be taken to correct this situation.

Yours truly,
Edward F. Curran
President, RPA



November 2, 2004

Edward F. Curran
President
Retired Police Association of the State of NY, Inc.
1 Old Country Rd, Suite 265
Carle Place, NY 11514-1884

Dear Mr Curran,

Your letter to Executive Director Joseph Seymour, dated October 4, 2004, requesting consideration to be giving to providing Port Authority retirees with reimbursement for Medicare Part B premiums has been referred to me for review and response.

First, let me apologize for the delay in not responding to your first two letters; however, the Port Authority has no record of receiving them.

Regarding your request, as you know all benefits are required to be negotiated. Since the Medicare Part B premium reimbursement benefit is not part of the Police Memorandum of Understanding, it cannot be offered to the Port Authority Police Officers on whose behalf you are writing.

Thank you for your inquiry and if I can be of further assistance in the future, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Rosetta A. Jannotta
Dep. Director, Human Resources Dept.




December 4, 2006

Edward F. Curran
President
Retired Police Association of the State of NY, Inc.
1 Old Country Rd, Suite 265
Carle Place, NY 11514-1884

Dear Mr Curran,

Your letter to former Executive Director Joseph Seymour, dated October 18, 2006, requesting consideration to be provides Port Authority Police retirees with reimbursement for Medicare Part B premiums has been referred to me for review and response.

As stated to you in response to your October 4, 2004 letter requesting the same, benefits are required to be negotiated. Since the Medicare Part B premium reimbursement benefit is not part of the Police memorandum of Understanding, it cannot be offered to the Port Authority Police retirees on whose behalf you are writing.

Sincerely,
Michael F. Cavalier
Manager, Employee Benefits
Human Resources Dept.

cc: Rosetta A. Jannotta










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